To: cturley@grin.net (Charles T. Turley) 
From: ??????? Anonymous
Subject: Re: My thoughts on all this....
Date: 9/19//97

>Dear Dr. Turley:

>I just want you to know that I have just finished visiting your web site for the
first time. It is very enjoyable, and please pass on my thanks to "St. Nick" for
me....

>I've never had an email conversation with you, but I've been a frequent
contributor to comp.sys.apple2 at least twice in the recent past. I've also left
the group twice because of certain people--and you are not one of them. I have
"formally" left the group and will not post publicly there any longer, but I do
still read the group and respond to posts via private email.

>The current state of affairs with this group is really pathetic. I wish there
were some way that Nathan Mates could be vanished from the group once and for
all. He's not the only one who is hostile, but he's the main ring leader as far
as I'm concerned, and he *certainly* does nothing to endear users to the Apple II
platform. If I were not an Apple II user LONG before my Internet connection
began, I wouldn't use the platform anymore out of spite for him, that's for sure.


>Besides his extreme rudeness to those who post (which included myself in the
past), I distinctly do not like this evangelism on his part that singles out
people like yourself and carries on a private war with them in public. This is
not only bad taste, but again, bad for the Apple II platform. It makes the entire
group look like a bunch of babies. 

>I don't know anything about you personally, whether you in fact are a former
drug user as Nathan purports, or whether you've pirated software, and frankly, I
don't care about those things. All I can see is that you are someone who is
sticking up for the platform and doing something in a positive way to show folks
that it is still a viable platform for use. That's all that is really important.
You also don't knock down Macintosh, another pet peeve I have against Nathan. He
does not deserve to be in charge of the Apple ][ FAQ in my opinion. That FAQ is
full of slams, both direct and indirect, at Apple Computer and at the Macintosh
platform. It is inappropriate for him to be able to spew his opinion at these two
things within a FAQ that is meant to be for factual information, not personal
opinion.

>I have not conveyed to Nathan my exact feelings above, because, quite frankly, I
don't want to receive a nasty email message from him. I don't need that. I don't
want anything to do with him. But I'm writing you to both voice my opinion on all
this and to let you know that I appreciate your attitude toward all that has
happened. Obviously, it is my hope that things someday change on that group and
that it goes back to being the kind of useful group it once was.

>Thanks for listening.