Subject: Re: Apple II quantities? Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 04 Dec 1999 01:28:19 GMT References: <38485C4A.6918@sunsouthwest.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991203202819.07189.00000356@ng-cm1.aol.com> bill_h wrote: >I may have simply missed it, but does anyone know of a website >with some statistics about the numbers of the various Apples >that were ever built? I'm asking because I've seen some rather >specious claims made (on eBay, of course) with regard to 'rarity'. I ----- approx. 200 ][ ----- approx. 100,000 ][+ ----- approx. 1 million //e ----- approx. 6 million //c ----- approx. 3 million IIc+ ----- approx. 100,000 IIgs ----- approx. 1.5 million Of the IIGS units, the first fifty thousand were Woz signature edition boxes (having Steve Wozniak's signature on the box). The only really rare models are the Apple I, the Apple II, and the Apple IIc Plus. However, of these, the Apple IIc Plus is very very rare outside the USA because Apple never sold it there. The IIc Plus rightly commands a premium in other countries (Europe, Asia, even Canada). While there are only 50,000 Woz signature edition IIGS units, the fact that they originally had "flawed" ROMs and graphics chips means that they are less desirable than the later IIGS units to many people, so Woz IIGS units can't really be considered collectable even if they are passed off this way (understandably so) on eBay. The problem with Woz IIGS units is this: they do not represent the Apple IIGS that well. When you collect a rare Apple IIc Plus, you can be sure it represents the IIc Plus line. When you collect an Apple I, you can be sure it represents an Apple I. But the Woz IIGS does not represent the IIGS unless they were fixed by replacing the ROM and graphics chips. You cannot run most IIGS software on an original Woz IIGS without replacing those chips.