Subject: Re: how to make disks images Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon01.swbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <36DCD3FE.B8D62987@swbell.net> From: Rubywand Reply-To: rubywand@swbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.emulators.apple2 References: <36DC7823.E56159CE@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 166 Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 00:17:34 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.193.12.5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@swbell.net X-Trace: typhoon01.swbell.net 920441842 207.193.12.5 (Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:17:22 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:17:22 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services nicolas raggueneau writes ... > > here's the point : how can i make images of my apple 2 disks, > in order to play with my old games in my much too powerful pc? On your enhanced Apple IIe, //c, IIc+, or IIgs, use DSK2FILE to convert the games to .dsk disk image files. Transfer the .dsk files to your PC using a NULL modem connection. For more details, see the file Csa2T2TCOM.txt on Ground or one of the other Csa2 FAQs sites ... Home site- for downloading or Viewing via an FTP program ... ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Faqs/ Mirrors- for on-line perusing via Netscape, etc. ... http://www.grin.net/~cturley/A2.FAQs.and.INFO/CSA2.FAQs/ ftp://apple.cabi.net/pub/applegs/FAQs.and.INFO/A2.Csa2.FAQs/ An alternative is to try ADT v1.21 or ap2222pc. These are two different ways to transfer whole disks to PC. Below is some info on these utilities ... >> file adt121.zip at ... ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/utility/ Ronny Svedman ADT (Apple Disk Transfer) is available from the asimov archives, both the PC end and the apple end. The only hook/problem with using ADT is getting the ADT program onto an apple disk for the first time. What you do is that you set your Super Serial Card to 300 bps, no parity, strip 8th bit. Then you boot your AppleII with dos 3.3 from a disk with some free space, type IN#, and use a PC terminal program to Ascii-upload the ADT utility. The author has provided a text file that enters the monitor, types itself into memory, and BSAVE's itself to the disk. Amazingly clever! Then, you reboot the apple, setup adt for desired port, speed & diskdrive, do the same on the PC, and Voila: it works. From here it is really straightforward: you control everything from the apple side, using simple commands (there is good on-screen help). Transferring Disk Images PC--> Apple II ADT does this for you, simply put a formatted 16-sector disk in the drive. (dos 3.3) if you download a ProDOS image onto a dos 3.3 formatted disk thats no problm, since ADT writes ALL of the disk, so you get a bootable ProDOS disk from a bootable ProDOS image. likewise with pascal and Apple Cp/M disks. ------- "Jack" I solved all my problems last night in getting ADT to work. Here's what finally worked 1. Set the Serial Card to 300 baud. (All settings on the DIP switches referenced in the ADT readme file stay the same except for SW1-1 and SW1-2 which should be set to "on." 2. I used Hyperterminal and set it to Com 1, TTY protocol, 300 bps, no parity, 1 stop bit, Xon/Xoff. 3. The pinning for the null modem cable in the ADT readme file was not right for me. Here's what worked (note that its only 4 pins): 9pin 25pin 2 -- 2 3 -- 3 4 -- 20 5 -- 7 I made the cable from a serial extension cable that had female and male 9 pin connectors.. I took off the casing on the male end, recorded which wires went to which pins and then heated up the pins to pull them out of the plastic. Once I got the pins out, I soldered pins to wires 2-5. I simply plugged these into the corresponding holes on the 25 pin connector on the serial card. I did connect a ground to the Apple. Also when I uploaded the second ADT file (the configuration file) from the PC to the Apple, I had to set the line delay to 300 milliseconds. It did not work right when I had it set for 0 seconds. The Adt.dmp file seemed to lock up my PC at first (before I got the cabling, etc. right). So I created a "test" file in Notepad which consisted of the word "test." Then I just uploaded the test.txt file to the Apple. This worked a lot quicker than the Adt.dmp file and it let me know that I got the connections right. After I got the two ADT files uploaded, I set the DIP switches bact to 19200 baud (SW1-1 and SW1-4 to off) and it worked like a charm. ------- Gianni Barberi I just made a cable and used ADT121.zip. This is a wondeful program that uploads itself into the apple. After much debate and suggestions in the newsgroup I finally connected the two and they're talking fluently via ADT. The answer is the most obvious: just connect Transmit Data to Receive Data and viceversa. Join Ground as well is a good thing, but I did transfer ADT on my Apple with just 1 wire ! I found it in the most empirical way: shuffling the wires till some garbage came on the screen. So I discovered as well that Apple used its own numbering on the DIN plug. Here are the connections, you can read the pin numbers on all the plugs. Apple // c DIN PC DB9 PC DB25 5 2 3 4 3 2 2 5 7 That's All Folks ! ____________________ AP2222PC file ap2222pc.zip at ... ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/utility/ From: Bill Mackin 003- Is there a way to transfer Apple II disks between a an Apple II and a PC? Sure. Yesterday I downloaded ap2222pc.zip. It was written by some guy in Hong Kong. You buy a 25-pin male parallel port connector and two 8-pin DIP sockets from Radio Shack. He gives the wiring diagram for connecting 9 wires between them. You type in a 6502 assembly program on your apple at address 300. Save the program, shut things off, hook up the wire from your PC printer port to the Apple Game Controller socket, turn them on, and run his programs. It copies whole Apple disk images over to the PC, or PC to Apple, or individual files back and forth! It works great! I've already made 26 disk images from my old Apple disks (great for backup, too!) and have been playing the games from them, moving games around, etc. I only had one problem with the ap2222pc program; the first time I ran it, my PC was already in Windows and I had printed something to a HP LaserJet IV from it; when I turned the Apple on after hooking up the cable, the Apple locked up, giving me several different hi-res graphics screens in series, no beep, and no cursor. The problem went away when I turned the Apple on first, then the PC. << Rubywand