Subject: Re: AW Six-Point-Zero Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: obsbedia2@aol.com (Obsbedia2) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Lines: 92 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 Nov 1999 17:29:41 GMT References: <19991110013134.08517.00002487@ng-bd1.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991111122941.09391.00000058@ng-fm1.aol.com> Got it and good advice. As to whether I'll use it much? Time will tell. I use HyperCard and HyperStudio's eight-bit counterpart, Tutor-Tech. Tutor-Tech does things that it's 16-bit relations can't, but best of all, the stacks that my students and I author with it can run on ANY Apple II at school. Currently, my writers are designing their own Millennium Malls, complete with interactive kiosk maps that help new visitors to find their way about these malls of the future, right down to the menus in the food courts, what's playing in the multiplex theaters and what are the hottest things in fashion in the clothing boutiques. A mouse and an Apple IIe -- they were made for each other. I have a IIgs and it sits right next to my IIe. I think that the IIgs gets maybe one-fiftieth of the use that the IIe enjoys -- a best! Basically, the IIgs is there for the same reasons as this *&^%$#@ iMac: to support my IIe. Yep, the *&^%$#@ iMac is the most expensive peripheral for my Apple IIe so far. Like a lot of Apple II Users, I fell in love with my eight-bit machine and never fell out of love. The IIe is simple, dependable, fast, clean, learnable, durable and FRIENDLY. It does what I ask it to do, rarely crashes or locks up and it survived a decade of school kids pounding on it's keys before I bought it. Thus far, while I have upgraded it, the only part that has needed to be replaced is the power supply. I use a Bugg Power Supply now, so the IIe will probably last longer than I will. ][ Infinitum indeed! So, when it comes to upgrading to the next version of AppleWorks, I want it to be able to be run on 8 or 16 bit Apple II computers. I would gladly consider it to be larger in size, just as AW5 isn't sold in 5.25" disk form, AW6 could be really only for hard drive installable. Yes, I know, a big leap from playing it on any Apple II, but hard drives, especially the Focus Drive, are really inexpensive these days and 80 meg SCSI drives are either given away or used as door stops. WYSIWYG AppleWorks isn't going to happen because of the time it would take for the standard 1MHz processor to make the screen prettier would make using the program so much more unproductive, but having the CaPaBiLiTiEs to bring up graphics and sounds does not slow down AppleWorks one microsecond if they're not being used, and then when you do want them, you can use them. With that in mind, tying in sound capabilities to the core Apple II program seems like a good step in its next evolution: a Hypermedia AppleWorks program, able to bring up text, graphics and sounds all on the same screen. We already have that ability in the database's single entry display with printshop graphics. A graphic is presented in the bottom right-hand corner of the database, along side the database information so that you can see what you are reading about. AppleWorks has survived and grown because it is a do-it-all sort of program. Yes, xyz program has this features that AppleWorks doesn't -- yet. Then someone writes a patch or a macro and suddenly there is no longer a requirement to have this other program, because your can do the same thing in AppleWorks, the Swiss army knife of Apple II computer programs (the other such knife in the 8-bit toolkit is Tutor-Tech). I'm really curious about what other Apple II Users would like to see incorporated into AW6.0. After this discussion, I realize that AW6 with sound would really need to have a way of recording the sounds while in AppleWorks, just as you can write in the word processor and not just read what had to be created on another word processor, and create/manipulate pictures with TimeOut Paint, instead of just printing them out with TO.Superfonts. Jay Edwards ______ _/_____/! /______ /! | !~! | //e | / |_______|/|-,.::... |-=-|-=-|/./ : ; /######/ / : I : ~~~~~~~~~ .: (") [] << Get HyperCard for the Apple IIGS. It can do everything you list. In my opinion, HyperCard is a very powerful multimedia database for the IIGS. In fact, one of the sample stacks included IS a starter bird stack with info, picture, and bird song. You can download the HyperCard disks through the AOL Apple II Forum's link to Apple's offering of IIGS System Software. This includes System 6.0.1 but also has the full HyperCard IIGS 1.1 program. >>