Subject: Re: AppleWorks 5 on Ground?Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!typhoon01.swbell.net.POSTED!not-for-mailMessage-ID: <37FE4B16.850A5020@swbell.net>From: Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>Reply-To: rubywand@swbell.netX-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U)X-Accept-Language: enMIME-Version: 1.0Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2References: <199910081650.SAA60960@mail1.uni-muenster.de>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-asciiContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitLines: 49Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:50:46 -0500NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.193.15.11X-Complaints-To: abuse@swbell.netX-Trace: typhoon01.swbell.net 939412206 207.193.15.11 (Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:50:06 PDT)NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:50:06 PDTOrganization: SBC Internet ServicesPenman writes ...>> Sigh. Here we go again.  This is the reason a lot of people has decided> not to use Ground anymore, since it's turning into a pirate site.     Offering Appleworks on Ground seems like a fine idea. Regarding v5, onlythe v5.1 update (about 327k in .shk) appears to be there. Where is the fullAppleworks 5 install on Ground?> AppleWorks 5 is NOT public domain, and while we all know that it's not> available anymore,     At least your information about Appleworks commercial availability is moreaccurate then the nonsense you've been spouting about MECC wares.> many people such as Bev, the Lost Classics folk  and> others are working, trying to get Apple Corporation to release it as> public domain.     Naturally, we all wish them well in this effort.     In the mean time, it is worth noting that Apple has been pretty good aboutpermitting distribution of essential Apple II software and firmware which thecompany owns. For example, ProDOS is not licensed; but, Apple does not harassvendors and developers distributing their wares on ProDOS disks. Nor does Appleact to close sites like Emulation Net which distribute ROM copies needed foremulators like Bernie.     It does not seem likely that we shall obtain public domain status for"Appleworks" any time soon. The name is too valuable to Apple for current andfuture word processor products. If we want to have classic Appleworks in thepublic domain, then the first step should be to edit each version we wish tosee in PD-- mainly, v2.x, v3, and v5.1-- to replace "Appleworks" with some newname. For instance, we could call it "AplIIworks" or "ClassicWrks"-- i.e. somename which permits a direct, same-length substitution.> Having illegal copies up on Ground makes that reclassification work that> much harder.  Hopefully Steve will see this thread and remove it. ....LOL! Starting this thread is _your_ mistake. Don't expect Steve to remove it.Rubywand