Subject: Re: Asimov Site
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From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" <crazydomainowner@yesthisisavalidreplydomainthoughyouwouldntthinkitwouldyounow.com>
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> >      What will happen is this ...  One or more new Asimov sites will be
established on
> > ISPs that care more about staying in business than pleasing whining
emailers. Complaints
>
> Sigh.

Sigh indeed. Both of you are ignoring the fact that even if US-hosted
archives can be harassed out of existence, the busybodies have no chance of
achieving the same end in (say) Russia or Eastern Europe. The US Government
is not going to launch a first strike against Russia for hosting "illegal"
abandonware sites. No matter how much you people bitch, the US Government
wouldn't even cut backbone connections.

The vicious politics, stickybeaking and interference in the Apple II
"community" are unbelievable (and without comparison in the 8-bit nostalgia
world); you remind me of neighbors who are constantly spying over each
other's fences looking for something to complain about. The last time I was
exposed to this was in early 1995, but I see that absolutely nothing has
changed in the last five years. I wonder if this is because the Apple II was
for a long time the "educator's computer". Perhaps those people who are
currently looking for new ways to harass others should step back for a
moment and ... WHOA Toto - we aren't in the playground any more! You will
not become teacher's pet for telling on the naughty boy. Wake up and realize
how irredeemably pathetic you are. I realize that most of you are just
attention-seekers deriving some kind of satisfaction from the attention of
all the people telling you how futile your existence is, but just think how
much more attention you could get if you (say) RAN one of those archive
sites.

When I think of the Apple II community, I think of numerous crotchety old
people testily waving their Zimmer frames at people walking past their front
lawn. "Listen sonny, in my day you had to pay rent to walk across that piece
of footpath. I remember in 1893, I used to charge two shillings a head for
cattle driven across there." The culprits in this also seem to be (in the
main) people with mostly empirical knowledge and little or no real "I hacked
that system" association with the II line.

I'm almost ashamed to have Apple II equipment in my vintage collection,
considering the company it puts me in. (And obviously I am not talking about
all Apple II users there). The people I'm talking about know who they are,
and the sooner you people move on to less harmful occupations, the better
the world will be.

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-- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards
Embedded Engineer
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