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Apple IIe Card for the Macintosh LC
  Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

  by Phil Beesley
 
 

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whom all corrections, additions and queries should be addressed. This text
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Document date: 17 February 2002
 
 

 Section A - BASICS

      A1 - What is the Apple IIe card for the Macintosh LC?

      A2 - Which Macintosh models and system software are supported?

      A3 - Is Macintosh System 6 supported?

      A4 - What is in the Apple IIe card kit?

      A5 - What are the part numbers for the bits?

      A6 - I have the card and Y-cable. What else do I need?
 
 

 Section B - DISK DRIVES

      B1 - Which types of external disk drives are supported?

      B2 - Does the card work without the Y-cable?

      B3 - Can I use the Mac's built-in 3.5" drive?

      B4 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on hard drives?

      B5 - Can I create ProDOS partitions on an external Zip disk?

      B6 - How do I create ProDOS hard disk partitions?
 
 

 Section C - RESOURCES

      C1 - Where can I buy the Apple IIe card?

      C2 - Where can I obtain the IIe card software?

      C3 - Where can I obtain the manual?

      C4 - Can I make my own Y-cable?

      C5 - Where can I find photos of the IIe card?
 
 

 Section D - USING THE CARD

      D1 - How do I get started in the Apple IIe environment?

      D2 - Can I access AppleShare servers and AppleTalk printers?

      D3 - Can I boot the IIe card from a file server?

      D4 - How can I use ethernet on my Mac LC series computer?

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 Section A - BASICS

 A1 - What is the Apple IIe card for the Macintosh LC?

 The IIe card creates a multi-featured Apple IIe inside an LC series Macintosh. The hardware
 emulates many of the expansion cards that you would install in a bare IIe, including 3.5" and 5.25"
 external drives, mouse, memory, 80 column mono or colour display, clock, serial printer and
 modem , SCSI hard drive and AppleShare fileserver.

 The card plugs into the PDS slot in many of the LC series Macintoshes but not all models and
 system software combinations are supported. You may not add real Apple II expansion cards
 because the IIe card does not have real expansion slots.

 A2 - Which Macintosh models and system software are supported?

 Macs which have an LC-compatible PDS slot AND which support 24-bit memory addressing can
 use the card. System 7.0 through to System 7.5.5 support both 24- and 32-bit addressing on
 suitable Macintosh models; from System 7.6 onwards, Macintosh system software does not
 support 24-bit addressing. To enable 24-bit addressing, use the Macintosh Memory control panel.

 Apple's Tech Info Library article 8458 lists the following models as IIe card compatible: LC,
 Colour Classic, LC II, LC III, LC 475, LC 520, LC 550, LC 575, Quadra 605, Performa 4XX,
 Performa 55X, Performa 56X, Performa 57X.

 The Colour Classic II is not listed in Apple's article but *may* work. No other model will work.

 A3 - Is Macintosh System 6 supported?

 Yes, you should be able to use System 6.0.8 on the original LC. The "unofficial" release 6.0.8L
 may also work with the LCII and Colour Classic. Apart from the original LC, however, the official
 minimum system version for these Macs is 7.0 or higher.

 A4 - What is in the Apple IIe card kit?

      LC-compatible PDS card
      Y-cable to support external disk drives and joystick
      manual -- "Apple IIe Card Owner's Guide"
      software -- "Apple IIe Startup Disk"

 A5 - What are the part numbers for the bits?

      complete package M0444LL/A
      cable 590-0703-A
      original software package 914-0403-A
      IIe card itself 820-0444-A
      original manual 030-5001-A
      "final" manual 030-1930-A

 A6 - I have the card and Y-cable. What else do I need?

      optional platinum 5.25 disk drive (A9M0107)
      optional white Unidisk 3.5" drive (A2M2053)
      optional external SCSI hard disk
      Joystick port device

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 Section B - DISK DRIVES

 B1 - Which types of external disk drives are supported?

 Only the two drives listed in question A6 will work with the LC card. This is explained in Apple's
 Tech Info Library article 8807. If the Unidisk 3.5" and platinum 5.25" drives are used together,
 hookup the 3.5" drive first to the Y-cable.

 B2 - Does the card work without the Y-cable?

 Yes, but obviously you cannot use an external disk drive or joystick.

 B3 - Can I use the Mac's built-in 3.5" drive?

 The built-in drive can be mapped as a Smartport device on Slot 5. 800Kb and 1.4Mb ProDOS
 formats are supported. The original LC was optionally available with two 3.5" drives (ie no internal
 SCSI hard disk) and both drives can be accessed by the IIe card. All other Macs in the LC family
 only support one floppy drive.

 Note that some copy protected software will not work from the built-in drive and may require a
 genuine Unidisk 3.5" drive.

 B4 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on hard drives?

 You can create a large number of ProDOS partitions on a SCSI hard disk but only four can be
 mapped at any time as Smartport devices. When you start the Macintosh, the ProDOS file system
 extension will mount the hard disk partitions on the Mac desktop. Files can be dragged between
 Mac and ProDOS volumes in the normal way to copy them.

 When you start the IIe card software, ProDOS partitions are unmounted from the Mac desktop
 until you quit using the IIe card. This prevents you from accessing files simultaneously from Mac
 and Apple IIe environments.

 B5 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on an external Zip disk?

 The author has not tested this.

 B6 - How do I create ProDOS hard disk partitions?

 If you use "standard" utilities, you must completely reformat the hard disk to create ProDOS
 partitions. Recent third-party utilities such as "FWB Hard Disk Tools" *may* allow partitions to be
 changed without completely formatting the disk.

 The version of "Apple HD SC Setup" supplied on the "Apple IIe Startup Disk" will only work with
 Apple brand hard disks. A patch utility is available which modifies "Apple HD SC Setup 7.3.5" to
 work with non-Apple disks. Information on the patch can be found at
 http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html.

[Csa2 FAQS rev055: Added from http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html ]

 Open HD SC Setup 7.3.5 within ResEdit 2.1.3
 Open the resource called "wfwr" ID 67.
 Change this byte from "00" to "FF".
 Save HD SC Setup 7.3.5 and close ResEdit 2.1.3
 

The "Apple IIe Startup Disk" contains System 6.0.8 in order to boot an original LC Mac. This disk
 will not work with later versions of the LC family.

 You only need to boot from the software installation disk to format/partition the LC series hard
 disk. The Apple IIe card support software can be installed after booting the Mac from any startup
 disk.

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 Section C - RESOURCES

 C1 - Where can I buy the Apple IIe card?

 The card was launched in 1991 but has been discontinued for several years. You should be able to
 buy the card second hand for a few dollars in the US but the card is more unusual and more
 expensive in other countries. Avoid buying a card which does not include the Y-cable.

 C2 - Where can I obtain the IIe card software?

 The final version of the "Apple IIe Startup Disk" is 2.2.x. Version 2.2.1 of the complete software
 kit can be downloaded as Apple_IIe_Card_2.2.1.sea.bin from

 ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Apple_II/For_Macintosh/

 A slightly later version of the "Apple II Startup" application is available as IIe_Startup_2.2.2d1.sea.bin .

 C3 - Where can I obtain the manual for the card and software?

 Two versions of the manual can be downloaded in Adobe Acrobat PDF format from the support
 area on Apple's web site but the location seems to change periodically. Try performing a search for
 "IIe card" in the manuals section. For use with version 2.2.1 of the software, you require the
 manual called "0301930AppleIIeCrd2.1.pdf".

 C4 - Can I make my own Y-cable?

 Possibly. The connector at the IIe card end uses an unusual connector (3 rows of pins, 26 pins in
 total). Connectors in the right hand column are those on the IIe card; for pin numbering, please see
 this image file. The connector is shown as viewed from the back of the Mac LC.

 Note: these pinouts have not been tested and you use this information at your own risk.

 Joystick (9 pin) to IIe card connector

      01 01
      02 21
      03 02
      04 20
      05 12
      06 19
      07 10
      08 03
      09 11

 Disk drive (19 pin) to IIe card connector

      01 04
      02 04
      03 13
      04 14
      05 no connection
      06 05
      07 22
      08 23
      09 06
      10 15
      11 24
      12 07
      13 16
      14 25
      15 08
      16 17
      17 26
      18 09
      19 18

 C5 - Where can I find photos of the IIe card?

 Photos of the author's card and screendumps of the card in use can be found at

      http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/lc_images.html
 

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 Section D - USING THE CARD

 D1 - How do I get started in the Apple IIe environment?

      In Macintosh mode, double-click on the "IIe Startup" icon.
      Alternatively, double-click on an Apple II .SYSTEM file on a ProDOS disk volume to
      launch the desired application.
      Command-Control-Reset will reset the Apple IIe when running in this mode. It will not reset
      the Mac.
      Command-Control-Escape in Apple IIe mode brings up the Apple IIe control panel so that
      you can map slots and functions.
      Run DOS or Pascal applications in the same way you would use a real Apple IIe.

 D2 - Can I access AppleShare servers and AppleTalk printers?

 Yes, the IIe card contains all of the functionality of the Apple IIe Workstation card. You do not
 need to install any special drivers but you do need the Chooser and Logon tools which are on the
 Workstation card disk. This disk is not available from Apple's FTP site at the time of writing.

 D3 - Can I boot the IIe card from a file server?

 Yes, you can boot from a suitable AppleShare file server just like a real IIe. You do not need to
 install any additional software for the Mac or IIe card. If you do not have an AppleShare server,
 you can access shared folders on your network but you must boot the IIe card from a floppy or
 hard disk.

 D4 - How can I use ethernet on my Mac LC series computer?

 If you install the IIe card, it will use the only PDS expansion slot in your Mac so you will not be
 able to use an internal ethernet adapter.

 Some LC family Macs have an additional Comms slot that will take an ethernet adapter. Apple
 warn that these adapters may not be compatible with the Apple IIe card.

 SCSI ethernet adapters are available second hand. These are not as fast as a proper internal
 adapter but are much better than LocalTalk or an adapter that plugs into a LocalTalk port (eg
 Farallon Etherwave).

 If you use an external ethernet adapter for your networking, you will be able to use it for your IIe
 card's network connection without any additional software.
 

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